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Prop 8- The Aftermath

November 14, 2008 · 2 Comments

Last week 52% of voters in California voted to pass Prop 8 which bans same-sex marriage in California.

There is an upside to this whole Prop 8 mess.  The upside is that the gay community and our supporters are being galvanized.  People are beginning to understand the importance of gay marriage rights, that this is a fundamental right that should not be denied to us, that it’s also about being treated equally under the law.

A few years ago, there was a lot of ambiguity and apathy about this issue in the gay community.  No more!  People are protesting all over the place and are actively working on the next steps.  Most importantly, there is now a critical understanding of what this struggle means.

If gays and lesbians are granted the right to marry, it will mean that the law and society considers our relationships equal to that of heterosexuals.  Our relationships will be deemed worthy of dignity and respect.  This will have ramifications far beyond just the right to marry.

In my view, there are two avenues the gay community can take to win back this right.  The first is to put forth another initiative in two years or so that would reverse Prop 8.

The other would be to take this issue to the federal courts where it would eventually make its way to the U.S. Supreme Court.

The former strategy is easier to implement and a lot less risky because it’s limited to California.

The latter strategy is higher risk but with the possibility of a greater return.  If the U.S. Supreme Court decided in our favor, that would legalize same sex marriage in all of the U.S. at both the state and federal level, which is the ultimate goal.  Ten years ago, the U.S. Supreme Court struck down the highly discriminatory Amendment 2 in Colorado.

If they rule against us however, that would set back this movement many, many years.

Presently, the U.S. Supreme Court is fairly conservative.  Even though Obama will soon be President and will have the opportunity to appoint new justices, the justices who may retire soon are liberals.

If I had to choose, I’d say go for the less risky route of trying to reverse Prop 8 just in California and slowly work to educate the public regarding same sex marriage.

Public opinion does affect the way justices rule on social issues.  Getting the support and understanding of the American public before taking this to the U.S. Supreme Court is a far more prudent course of action.

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2 responses so far ↓

  • Charles // November 15, 2008 at 1:12 am | Reply

    I read the Lawrence v. Texas decision, and my reading from their mention of gay marriage was that they would at least give it serious consideration if it were to come before them. Of course, the court has changed its membership since then.

  • johnbisceglia // November 16, 2008 at 3:43 am | Reply

    The U.S. government crossed a VERY serious line with PROP 8.

    This “proposition” threatened children’s sense of safety and belongingness in California. Children’s safety.

    Regardless of THIS particular fight, there are way too many fights on way too many fronts for us to conquer piecemeal. The Time is Now – DRAW A NEW LINE in the sand and demand from President Obama and our representatives FULL EQUALITY.

    Equality Is Simple When You Simply Include Everybody.

    What? Not detailed enough for the lawyers?

    OK, we can list repealing DOMA, repealing DADT, include transgender in the ENDA Bill, allow adoption of abandoned children, equality in immigration
    issues, recognize our hate crimes as such, equal family/children rights……….whew! See what I mean?

    We are EQUAL SOULS in HUMAN BODIES. Could we please STOP discriminating due to the genitalia attached? Plumbing will determine each civil right?! Any separation from the pack is ultimately due to gender (and/or gender roles & stereotyping), and that is SEXISM. I cannot marry Bob
    because I am the “wrong” gender; if I were a woman I could marry Bob. SEXISM.

    And I cannot stress ENOUGH how my own suffering from Marriage Inequality is NOT the reason for wanting or needing equality. I am not something to focus on. But my story, and the stories of countless other Americans desperately need to be addressed in this civil rights struggle. Marriage laws

    were put in place many years ago in order to PROTECT individuals and their FAMILIES; if they were NOT necessary they would not exist (for heterosexuals). When these laws are NOT in place for ALL OF US, horrible, horrible suffering occurs. My WEBSITE has many examples.

    So Americans want to continue denying us what they have already deemed as essential. And many people want us to WAIT…2….5……10…….20……..30 YEARS, depending on the “civil right”, for what WAS and IS our birthright.

    I personally have a HUGE problem with that. I cannot wait. I will not wait.

    Will you join me on Wednesday, April 15th, 2009, and help me inform the government that WE are eager to be included in the federal tax base as

    soon as THEY include us in society’s laws? My 5-year-old students could understand this concept: EQUAL = EQUAL

    As Americans can’t we agree that there are MANY other important issues to address (like the Economy, Education, Health Care, Poverty & Homelessness, Iraq/Afghanistan…all of these are related), and solving THOSE problems is more urgent than having “Equality Issues” TIE UP THE

    COURTS for another 30+ years? We will NOT go away.

    You keep procreating; we keep popping out. Sorry.

    Our representatives have spent years inventing 4-letter words (DOMA, DADT) to restrict us, deny us, demoralize us, and harm our beloved families and children. Enough is enough.

    NO MORE. NO MORE.

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    The National Equality Tax Protest
    – Wednesday, April 15th, 2009 –
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